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Bagrec in the Night Garden

  • Sep. 4th, 2008 at 8:04 AM
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Cbeebies has changed the bedtime hour (the only children's telly we watch routinely with our children, between bathtime and bedtime) - it's goodbye to "The Rubbadubbers" (thank christ) and "64 Zoo Lane" (shame) and hello to In the Night Garden.

This is quality- unlike the Rubbishduffers it's aimed squarely at kids like ours, rather than making knowing nudges and winks towards their parents, and is gentle, repetitive and s..l...o...w. Perfect for pre-bedtime viewing. It also has great music, beautiful images and is narrated by Derek Jacobi (I saw his Hamlet at Sunderland Empire in 1978 you know...)



The only problem is I find the end sequence unbearably sad, as the main character, Iggle Piggle, alone, asleep and vulnerable in a tiny boat, sails over a dark sea towards the horizon. I fact, I find myself welling up just thinking about it...

Poll #1253485
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I weep quietly at the end of "In The Night Garden"...

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You big soppy get! Pull yourself together man!
1 (8.3%)

Quite understandable, it is avery touching image.
3 (25.0%)

Crikey, you really are tired, aren't you?
8 (66.7%)



A fantastic, illustrated and learned article by Sam Jacob, which acknowledges the show's "atmosphere of sadness that is out of kilter with the upbeat rictus grin of most kid-fodder" is here-
In the Night Garden - Surreal Landscape of Nostalgia

Comments

[info]eskimolimon wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2008 07:46 am (UTC)
I was planning to get that for my daughter last year (she's 4 1/2 now, perhaps too old for it?) - I suppose if I do, my son (2) will be able to watch it. How old are yours?

Our two watch telly in the morning, before school/childminder; it's usually bloody Dora. We used to get BBC Prime, so there would be a couple of good shows (Balamory, Yoho Ahoy, Abercrombie etc etc) as well as some appalling bollocks.
[info]bagrec wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2008 08:00 am (UTC)
Our kids are 1 and 2 and they love it - 4 and half might be pushing it - but it is enjoyable for so many reasons, so worth a try. I think the repetition might get to older kids though...

My son has just discovered The Tellytubbies (I put it on while I'm making my sandwiches for work) and loves it...
[info]mockduck wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2008 08:09 am (UTC)
I'd agree that it's for 2s and under really. Item can't see the appeal, which is annoying, because she accepts the Tweenies or Dora with their much inferior aesthetics - simply because they are aimed at her level. I'm sad to notice that Peppa Pig is on its way out: that's one I really enjoyed along with her. Long may Charlie and Lola reign.
[info]mockduck wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2008 08:14 am (UTC)
Also, I agree with your lack of sleep diagnosis. I spent the first year of Item's life crying at any slightly wet bit of TV, including the channel idents.
[info]bagrec wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2008 09:30 am (UTC)
I hear nothing but good things about Peppa Pig!
When's it on?
[info]mockduck wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2008 06:36 pm (UTC)
8.15am Mon-Fri on Channel 5, by the looks of things. We liked it so much we bought every episode on DVD (I say we; this is the sort of thing my husband does, in fact) and it has seen us through a good few meal preparation times and cheered her up during chicken pox, as well.
[info]markhammonds wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2008 09:39 am (UTC)
Bring back the Rubbadubbers. Ar,ar, Arrr!
[info]bagrec wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2008 10:27 am (UTC)
oh shut up! Bloody Sean Hughes, I'll never foorgive him for that!
[info]markhammonds wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2008 12:36 pm (UTC)
Ooh, I've touched a nerve there. A moity big one.
[info]bagrec wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2008 12:48 pm (UTC)
aaargh aaargh aaaaaaaaaaagh
[info]jewelsong wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2008 10:27 am (UTC)
One thing about having children - it turns you into a big, giant, emotional wuss. You weep at *everything* because somehow, life has become that much more precious and tender.

I distinctly remember welling up at a McDonald's commercial where the little boy feels left out after his new baby sister is born and so his Dad takes him out for McDonalds and then the little boy wants to bring some french fries home to the baby sister...pathetic.

And it gets worse. Much, much worse. ;-)
[info]bagrec wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2008 10:28 am (UTC)
I'm starting to get frightened....
[info]jewelsong wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2008 10:31 am (UTC)
Oh...things are just beginning. You think that when they get older, you'll become LESS emotional? Not a chance.

My beautiful 21-year old daughter came to visit me here in the UK last spring and when I saw her come out the door from customs, I burst into tears. "Aww...Mommy," she said.

But you know...it's great. Its great to feel that much connection and love. Too much hate and cynicism in the world. Bring on the tender tears!
[info]spoombung wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2008 10:51 am (UTC)
Speak for yourself!
Having children made me cruel and heartless!
(Anonymous) wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2008 01:23 pm (UTC)
in the night garden
our little girl is only 7 weeks and yet somehow I already know about and enjoy Iggle Piggle, Peppa Pig and Charlie and Lola !

PS I love the juxtaposition of you writing about gentle kids TV whilst lisetning to Boris' Smile !!

Clive Robot
[info]bagrec wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2008 01:30 pm (UTC)
Re: in the night garden
I need a racket to keep me awake!

Actually Boris are kind of childish anyway....

Edited at 2008-09-04 01:34 pm (UTC)
[info]flamingfairy wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2008 02:49 pm (UTC)
I saw his Hamlet at Sunderland Empire in 1978 you know

Well really - you shouldn't have been looking!
[info]bagrec wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2008 06:29 pm (UTC)
snort!
[info]flamingfairy wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2008 02:56 pm (UTC)
And having just watched the end titles on YouTube, I welled up as well and I don't even have kids to blame for making me tired!!
[info]bagrec wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2008 06:30 pm (UTC)
oh, man....it really gets to me.
[info]flamingfairy wrote:
Sep. 5th, 2008 06:48 am (UTC)
That article you linked to is totally right as well. There are nods to adult nostalgia all the way through - perhaps these are to engage the parents in the way other programmes do with the usual knowing gags etc. I watched a whole episode out of curiosity and saw echoes of Trumpton, the Woodentops, the Herb Garden and H R Pufnstuf.

My favourite character was Makkapakka - is he a hit with the kids?
[info]bagrec wrote:
Sep. 5th, 2008 07:04 am (UTC)
Trumpton and Thunderbirds are in there too. Even the music they all dance to on the bandstand is a close relative to Freddie Phillips' music for "Camberwick Green".

I liked Makkapakka best at first - the downtrodden hard working proletariat in the service industries...

although lately it's the eternal wandering Jew, Iggle Piggle that get's my vote.



[info]loveandgarbage wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2008 08:49 pm (UTC)
The ending is beautiful; I think Iggle Piggle in the boat represents his finally having gone to sleep in the night garden itself - assuming there are dreams within dreams based on the opening credits (although I may be reading too much into it ;-) ).

It is the best new pre-school show of recent years (my eldest started school 2 weeks ago so we've watched a fair bit of CBeebies during that time).
[info]bagrec wrote:
Sep. 5th, 2008 07:00 am (UTC)
That's a far happier reading than mine!

I see Iggle Piggle as an outsider who doesn't belong in the night garden with all the other characters - "it's time for you go" says Derek before he's off in his little boat and...oh I'm off again.
(Anonymous) wrote:
Oct. 4th, 2008 10:13 pm (UTC)
Night Garden
Well, this is the best television show in Europe, clearly: the result of having unlimited freedom and money (the sales of Tellytubbies meant its creators had carte blanche). I've been so unobservant that I did not realise it was La Jacobi who was doing the voice. He surely has a warmly sympathetic place in all the hearts of the I Clavdivs generation. For some perverse reasons (perhaps because the scenario itself is actually perverse) I imagined a scene in the Dennis Potter/Mickey Spillane/Dennis Hopper/Nu Batman vein in which a crazed killer sings "Yes My Name is Iggle Piggle" before committing an unspeakable crime. It'll come.
But the frankly terrific ending in which the lost blue soul goes forth for ever upon the river Lethe - man! a stroke of genius in a surrealistic classic. Bright young things all over the world would surely want to work for The Simpsons or the Night Garden team.
Most of the really interesting sound design is happening in kids' telly, I think. EB
Rubberdubbers, meantime, is shit of the first order. There are other offenders, as you know. Poisonous crap of all sorts. I particularly hate the Pixar "Cars" movie, Barney, Disney's godawful and sacreligious Winny the Pooh with its hillbilly cretin characterisation (of the kind even Bud Abbott would have puked at), numberless other tedious drains on the soul. Monsters Inc is great. Peppa Pig is existential philosophy dressed up as a kids' cartoon. Most of these things are terrifying.
(On the radio as I write: preview of Goblin Market... Isn't James Naughtie awful? His reports from America, like a schoolboy's homage to Alastair Cooke, knowing where AC was knowledgeable, sure do stick in the craw.)
Talking of Lethe, I have an episode of Saturday Night Fry (R4, 1988) you must hear, in which Stephen Fry does a Jim'll Fix It style feature whereby he tries to rescue a correspondent's father from the afterlife. With hilarious results, as they say.
Seen in Lisbon: three hundred foot advertising hoarding featuring warts and all Hugh Lawrie advertising soda water.
[info]bagrec wrote:
Oct. 6th, 2008 01:09 pm (UTC)
Re: Night Garden
More missives like this please Ed!

I couldn't agree more on the subject of the Disney Pooh.
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